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Travis Michael Fleming's avatar

Thank you for taking the time to engage with the points I raised. I appreciate your thoughtful and Scripture-centered approach, and I believe conversations like this are vital to help sharpen us.

Let me clarify where I’m coming from when I say the Rapture is a “new” doctrine and considered “secret” in some circles.

#1. “New” Doctrine

It’s true that harpazō in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 clearly refers to a sudden catching away, and that Paul teaches a future transformation of believers (1 Cor. 15:51–52). However, the claim that the specific framework of a pre-tribulational rapture—as distinct from the second coming—was taught consistently from the apostolic age onward is harder to establish historically. While the concept of believers meeting the Lord in the air is biblical, the systematized teaching of a two-stage return of Christ (rapture first, then visible return) is what many—including scholars of church history (Mark Noll, George Marsden, Douglas Sweeney, et. al)—describe as “new,” in the sense that it was popularized in the 19th century by John Nelson Darby and then spread widely through the Scofield Reference Bible and dispensational theology.

Early church writings overwhelmingly speak of a single return of Christ, not a separate secret event, but a public return. That’s the sense in which the doctrine is considered historically “new”—not that the biblical texts are new, but that the interpretation separating the rapture from the second coming as two events emerged relatively recently in church history.

#2. “Secret” Event

You're right to point out that Paul communicated these things publicly to the churches. However, when critics label the rapture as “secret,” they are usually referring to how some pre-tribulational systems depict the event—namely, that it happens without warning, without signs, and without public visibility (e.g., believers vanish, leaving the world in confusion). This is often contrasted with the public, visible, triumphant return of Christ described in passages like Revelation 19.

So, while the doctrine itself is not hidden in Paul’s writing, the manner in which it’s been taught—especially in popular media or speculative eschatology—has given rise to the characterization of it as a “secret rapture.”

In Summary:

The disagreement is less about whether believers are caught up to be with Christ (we agree that Paul teaches this) and more about how and when this happens in relation to the second coming. My concern is not with the biblical event itself, but with the system of interpretation that has sometimes overshadowed the broader biblical narrative of resurrection, renewal, and Christ’s cosmic reign.

Thank you again for reading and commenting. I appreciate the opportunity to wrestle together with God’s Word and the hope we both share in Christ’s return.

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Ron Kays's avatar

We differ regarding two key points:

The Rapture is “new” doctrine;

The Rapture is “secret.”

From your piece:

“The concept of the rapture—where believers are taken up to meet Christ in the air—does not appear in the early church writings and only emerged in the 19th century through Darby. This idea, largely absent from the historical Christian tradition, has surprisingly become central to many modern evangelical eschatologies.”

From my recent piece:

Key Word

Verse 17: “caught up” | Latin: “rapiemur” v. “rapio” | Greek: “harpazô” (to snatch, seize, or take suddenly).

Context: There is disagreement that the phrase in v17 indicates a “catching away by force” that happens in an instant (“in the twinkling of the eye”). Proponents believe the object of that “catching away” is the Church—those redeemed Christ followers alive on earth when the Rapture occurs. Some opponents concede that the language indicates a “catching away,” but tie such an event to the second coming of Christ. From their perspective, those Raptured immediately return to the earth with Jesus to witness the battle of Armageddon.

In either case, Paul believed in the imminence of the Rapture.

Provenance for the Rapture

This portion of the letter dispels two common misrepresentations regarding the Rapture:

It is a new doctrine;

It is a “secret” event.

Paul writes:

“For this we say to you by the word of the Lord . . .”

The Lord Jesus Christ revealed the Rapture doctrine to Paul over twenty centuries ago. Doctrinal provenance is well established.

Paul disseminated this letter to the Church, so it was not a “secret” to readers or those who heard and preached it over the succeeding 20 centuries.1

Conclusion: The Rapture is neither “new” nor a “secret.” Paul describes the Rapture to the Corinthian Church this way:

Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed—in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. —1 Corinthians 15:51-52

The original Greek word represented by “mystery” is mustérion, defined as:

A mystery, secret, of which initiation is necessary; in the NT: the counsels of God, once hidden but now revealed in the Gospel or some fact thereof; the Christian revelation generally; particular truths or details of the Christian revelation.

Paul’s words to the Church in Thessalonica and Corinth introduce the doctrine of the Rapture early in Church history and confirm a prophecy found in Amos:

“Surely the Lord God does nothing, Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.” —Amos 3:7

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